Wars & Battles
In the past, I have made big stinks of the unfair Wars and Battles. First it was the bars, whoever had the chips could sit at the bar and win. Then it was the bombs. Some changes were made here and there but... War and Battle wins can still be purchased. I kept quiet because it felt like I was fighting a losing battle, much like the last War.
Also, crews are still distributed unevenly. These last 2 Wars have been a joke. With so many new members and so many new crews, the issue needs to be addressed again.
After talking with quite a few others, here are some views and suggestions:
The top 2 crews are only allowed to pick and vote on 4 crews... That should be increased to something like 7-10 crew picks. There are a LOT of crews right now.
Like bars, i think bombs shouldn't count at all. Wars and Battles should be won by earning it. However, I know that isn't going to happen. So how about making them less impacting? And not by disallowing points from the dropper (something that was changed a while back as a possible solution). Whoever has the most cps shouldn't be the one who wins. Very unfair in a casino-building game where everything costs cps. Right now, someone can stay on for hours and hours doing missions, playing slots, earning points all the ways they can, non-stop... Then someone else can log in for an hour, drop/collect a few bombs, and not just catch up but leap way over the people who have been trying hard for their points. Very frustrating for a lot of people who don't have the cps, or who enjoy earning their points the way Battles and Wars were intended. Not to mention the unfair advantage that gives a crew with 60+ members, when most the other crews have 10-20 members. I don't see what was wrong with the 50 member cap.
This war, Blue had over 20 crews who scored 0. Black had 5. There was an idea of maybe having 2 different types of crews.. Battle crews with a member activity limit, and Social crews with no activity limits.
Xp battles made the most sense. The new scoring is confusing to a lot of people who still believe that if you make decent xps in a game, that counts for decent battle points as well. Now, slots are where the points are as far as the games go. It's supposed to be an "all-around" point system, yet we still don't go very far if we want to play Roulette or Solitaire or Poker. Slots, Missions, Bombs... That's all we can do. With more bombs between.
We want to have fun in our wars and battles again. I hear more talk of boycotting them rather than strategies. Please make some changes to bring the fun back into the competition.

Thank you for all of the feedback and ideas! We’ve released several major updates to the crews/battles/wars in today’s v1.0.59 release.
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HopeCC commented
I Hope22 would like to start off by saying I love Battle and War... It is the high light of the game ... but here lately it isn't as fun it used to be , it is so unbalanced that its unfair to some crews and they have to do more just to even TRY to stay caught up and with some crews being bigger than another crew makes it even tougher and especially with bombs some crews are way to big to go against and especially if they bomb so I too feel that bombing should be eliminated all together. This is why I have made the decision to bot cot... even thought I will miss it terribly but some thing has to be done to put the fun back into our Battles and Wars .
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hp4043 commented
As long as there is a crew with 90 members, there is no way a war can be fair for all crews to compete. I and our crew will choose to sit out the wars until changes are made to make war fair for all crews.
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anon commented
with regards your last point you clearly stated and i quote " I have never gained 3 levels during a war, but even if i did, who cares"
well by posting that i for one care if your cheating
but im not here to judge you ...the big man in the sky will do that on day of judgement
and sorry if not not sticking to the point
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MATT commented
same old same old , all i can say , he cheated they cheated we cheated , ha ha ha , will always be cheaters and unfair rules , Guess put up and shut up . Nothing will change to the point that people wont complain ,
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mas44 commented
stick to the point
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mas44 commented
there is no way to gain 3 levels in 3 days that is never going to happen unless you are on level one witch sypress is not
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Sypress commented
Stick to the point, Mr. Anonymous. I have never gained 3 levels during a war, but even if i did, who cares. It has nothing to do with this post. Vote or do not vote. Case closed.
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mas44 commented
this is a game there are many ways to win but you cant stack the deck with 80 member crews thats just not fun if you have 50 + members you should be excluded from all battles and wars
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TigerKitten commented
As far as crew size being a huge factor in the outcome of battles and wars, I think that could be eliminated by determining the winner by a crew's average score...if 10 people score 20k points during a battle or if 100 people score 20k, the average will still be 20k....just a thought :)
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anon commented
at no time did i say you was using a script
i was replying to lana post who said people do
with regards your scoring you do seem to score very high is all we saying
and many have commented on how u gain 3 levels in 3 daysi hope the next war will be much better for you and your fellow crew members
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Sypress commented
"anon", you have been accusing me of cheating for ages, anonymously, of course. It's cute, but makes no difference with my post.
I dont run scripts, i use bombs and i do my missions and play way more than I should. This is my whole point. I dont want to have to use bombs to get my high scores. I was happy having a high score all on my own before the bombs. These days, if you dont use bombs, you can't win, unless you are playing a mostly inactive or weak crew. I am not complaining about my team losing in war... I'm asking for fair scoring, fair chances. I've been asking for these type of changes from the start, once things became unbalanced, regardless of the team i'm on winning or losing. Bashing me makes no difference,
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anon commented
lana you said people are using scripts in the game
last battle a player who i not name was high scorer .....yet is know bleating on about an unfair war ...
if she won it we here nothing its the same with her all the time
if she lose every one cheated .... ask your self this how can you gain 3 levels in a 3 day battle ...... -
cimbakahn commented
I agree when she said: "Not to mention the unfair advantage that gives a crew with 60+ members, when most the other crews have 10-20 members."
There is supposed to be a 50 member cap. What happened with this? A CA said it was changed in the NEWS & UPDATES, but i don't see anywhere where it has been changed. The only thing i saw there was: "Upgrade costs in crews are now increased for crews with more than 25 members to maintain cost balance/fairness with smaller crews." And this is not the same thing as a 50 person cap.
Also, i don't agree with battles and wars at all. I think everything should be based individually on each persons merit. Come on! People staying up for 3 days straight and getting unhealthy because of it.
People have to realize we do have a life outside of this game. I am not going to get fat and unhealthy because of a game. There should be non-battle/war crews that can earn rewards too!
And they need to catch the people that are running scripts. And make sure there is no favoritism so everything is equal.
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Sypress commented
"anon", you are either new or havent been paying attention. We only get to "pick" 4 crews, and even then that no longer matters now that there is one crew with over 80 members so its just about which side gets that one crew. And bombs have nothing to do with it? lol um.. ok. They are just how every single battle and war is won these days...
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anon commented
this makes no sense at all as your the team that picks the crews to help you with battle ....maybe your making the wrong choices when picking ....
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Vanessa19 commented
I totally agree with everything mentioned...I have also mentioned this more than a few times. Battles have turned into bomb parties. Crews are not wanting to battle more and more because of this. Theres no point. Going into a battle knowing the other crew is gonna win cause they are able to do alot of bombs, doesnt make the other crew want to even try. If they do end up trying anyway...They end up even more frustrated because they just wasted what they did have, which prolly isnt much, on nothing. I could go on also, but it has already been mentioned in this post....My point..I agree with everything...
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Pluto commented
Regarding what Sypress said about unfair bombs cp advantage i agree 100% Not everyone or rather only a few can make high scores with out throwing bombs. Dissable bomb counting during battles and wars that will really show who is commited to the game and not who's got the most chips and cp's
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Sypress commented
Yes! I agree, doc, crews SHOULD have the choice to be in the war or not... But that also could go in line with the suggestion I heard (and added to this post) about having 2 different types of crews... Battle crews (with member activity limits, that would automatically get put into Wars if the funds are there) and Social crews (who dont have to be active, who wouldnt be entered into the Wars).. Something alone those lines.
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the_doctor commented
Also, I think that a crew should have to select themselves to participate on the day war is announced, then the next day is for voting from the list of participants. This will eliminate the numerous crews that are automatically entered under the current system just because they still have the funds in their crew bank even though they are inactive
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the_doctor commented
I believe something needs to change, however, I do agree with Kmurs that prepping for battles and wars are part of the game as well.
I would suggest possibly make the wars a 4 day event where the top 4 crews vote and pick their teams. the first 2-day war is 2 separate 1v1 teams. the winners of those two wars immediately go into a 2-day war to see who wins it all. This will bring in much more strategy as you can't waste all your funds bombing during the first round or you will not have much for the winner's bracket.
I realize that this is a huge change to the current system and would be very time consuming to the admins to adjust it this way but I figure I'll throw it out there since we are discussing the topic