Wars & Battles
In the past, I have made big stinks of the unfair Wars and Battles. First it was the bars, whoever had the chips could sit at the bar and win. Then it was the bombs. Some changes were made here and there but... War and Battle wins can still be purchased. I kept quiet because it felt like I was fighting a losing battle, much like the last War.
Also, crews are still distributed unevenly. These last 2 Wars have been a joke. With so many new members and so many new crews, the issue needs to be addressed again.
After talking with quite a few others, here are some views and suggestions:
The top 2 crews are only allowed to pick and vote on 4 crews... That should be increased to something like 7-10 crew picks. There are a LOT of crews right now.
Like bars, i think bombs shouldn't count at all. Wars and Battles should be won by earning it. However, I know that isn't going to happen. So how about making them less impacting? And not by disallowing points from the dropper (something that was changed a while back as a possible solution). Whoever has the most cps shouldn't be the one who wins. Very unfair in a casino-building game where everything costs cps. Right now, someone can stay on for hours and hours doing missions, playing slots, earning points all the ways they can, non-stop... Then someone else can log in for an hour, drop/collect a few bombs, and not just catch up but leap way over the people who have been trying hard for their points. Very frustrating for a lot of people who don't have the cps, or who enjoy earning their points the way Battles and Wars were intended. Not to mention the unfair advantage that gives a crew with 60+ members, when most the other crews have 10-20 members. I don't see what was wrong with the 50 member cap.
This war, Blue had over 20 crews who scored 0. Black had 5. There was an idea of maybe having 2 different types of crews.. Battle crews with a member activity limit, and Social crews with no activity limits.
Xp battles made the most sense. The new scoring is confusing to a lot of people who still believe that if you make decent xps in a game, that counts for decent battle points as well. Now, slots are where the points are as far as the games go. It's supposed to be an "all-around" point system, yet we still don't go very far if we want to play Roulette or Solitaire or Poker. Slots, Missions, Bombs... That's all we can do. With more bombs between.
We want to have fun in our wars and battles again. I hear more talk of boycotting them rather than strategies. Please make some changes to bring the fun back into the competition.
Sypress
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Thank you for all of the feedback and ideas! We’ve released several major updates to the crews/battles/wars in today’s v1.0.59 release.
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hp4043
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Pluto, i dont believe that bombs will ever be eliminated from battles and war as they are a huge money maker for the site
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Pluto
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Why am i still anonymous even if im logged in? Pluto I made the post starting with "Even if I were to prepare" Just to let you all know :)
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Pluto
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Even if I were to prepare for a war or battle, i can never ever compare to someone who make 40-50k xp in an hour. Real money and bombs is the only thing that can assure that kind of score which not everyone can afford.
To make any battle or war even , i can only suggest the following.
Each member need to pay to partake, then each player only gets an X amount of chips, cp to partake in that battle or war. No gold must be allowed to be bought or transferred as well as cp exchanged via the cp tables (password protected ones) . What you get is what you need to use during that period.
This way no one's gaming chips/ cp counts during this time.
Whether you got 50mil or 1 mil in bank everyone starts with the same amount period. Then only real gameplay and time spend during a war will be accounted for who wins the war.It does not help to pass blames on anyone for history. Rather solve the matter with positive feeds.
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hp4043
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And I want to let it be known that AE is in the war due to an error on our crews part, but our true intention was to boycott the war totally. We will not be in battle mode, just the normal daily activities for our crew.
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mas44
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yep i agree hi sypress its mas44
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Sypress
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Well, even with our cps and most our chips taken out, we are still entered into the war, for free... So frustrating. We will do what we do, on any other day, not in "battle" mode. Sigh. What a joke.
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HopeCC
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That was me Hope22 that said that lol
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HopeCC
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Thats one fair I will not attend lol scared I might fall off the Fairness wheel
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mas44
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so is having 100 people in a crew dont you think? it cost us 5 times as much if they only bomb one time ya thats fair.you know what fair is it is somthing that comes to town once a year that what fair is this is not that get our side yet or should i slow it down some for ya?
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AdminChelseaDT
(Admin, GoldFire Studios)
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Making the bombs alternate prices for certain people is unfair. The price of bombs must be equal to all.
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mas44
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if you make the price of bombs 100 cps per bomb in crews over 50 members i would play your war then until that happens i refuse to play in or pay for the war
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cimbakahn
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MrGoodbar
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Has this discussion gotten a little off topic?
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cimbakahn
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There has to be a way for crews to rank up without these battles and wars. A battle is not so bad because it is only 24 hours. But a war lasts for 3 days. Three days is too hard on people. And what do you do if some of your crew members is MIA?
And thank you very much for deleting my previous comment. It took a long time to write that. So thank you for wasting my time!
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cimbakahn
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Matt. I am no longer going to spend real world money on this game. They got approximately 400 dollars out of me already. Enough is enough! If i spend money on a online game, it will be Lady Popular. Atleast their lady clubs have a cap of 50 members. And, you can leave the game for a year and come back and all your stuff (in your account) will still be there. If i was playing Lord of the Rings online, lifetime membership is $299US. And yes, i heard about all the CP that the newcomers are getting. I never got that when i first started. You may want to look at this page. Scroll halfway down. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jsimpson/casinorpg
P.S. Still looking for Eliot Ness.
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MATT
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When new players come in and get specials ,then game already done for , Old players mean nothing ,even the ones that spend real money and lots . Yes there are cheaters been brought up many times , nothing gets done or changed to stop it , So a even better rason to stop spending and just enjoy the company.
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anon
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simple way round this all cash playing players stop getting gold until this issue is fixed
the crew with 90 players will see that having so many players has ruined the game and need to address the issue or it will hurt james pockets
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Anonymous
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cimba that has nothing to do with scripts.. its just hard play.. they get those points by playing 24 hours a day.. doing missions on time. doing sprints, and dropping bombs. They learned long ago how to run missions fast. how to prep for the wars. To think they are running scripts or cheating is just stupid, whining. trolling. All your screenshot proves is that while you are screen shotting and talking in global. They are scoring points.
The unfair part of battles or wars isnt from single players. Its that the sides get set unevenly, large crews and inactive crews.
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cimbakahn
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I personally think the blue drink and the bombs should count towards battles & wars. As long as there are even numbered crews, AND as long as the people cheating gets caught and banned permanently.
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cimbakahn
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Proof of scripts: http://imgur.com/65jeFqV
Look at how much time there is left to go.