time for winners and spinners to stay out of wars. they have no place there, and are killing the game for so many. proof in the pudding with lexy spitting the dummy and leaving. ATOC no one wants to be on your team. so do everyone a favour and don't disrupt other peoples fun by making people hateful each month for 3 days. crew of 100, with a handful or committed players. you should be ashamed of yourself. (+ a crew of 100 should not be allowed, ridiculous!)

Really, Sue? You act as if we CHOSE to battle you guys. None of us wanted that. We throw out a challenge, you guys were selected. You could have withdrawn. I'm sorry our battle was a slaughter, but what were we supposed to have done? Said "oh, we got paired with a crew that doesn't have the kind of players we have, lets not win"? If that were the case, we would pass on most battles that we get. We aren't bullies. We just like to battle and you guys were selected, not by us. And yes, we are #1 because we keep hitting that challenge button. We dont know who we are going to get. It's not like back in the day when we got to pick our opponents. I didnt appreciate you talking to us in global as if this were a personal attack against you and I sure as hell dont appreciate your comment on my post when you had your battles turned on and chose to ride it out.

there still seems to be an issue with any type of fairness when it comes to battles. For instance, why was 20/20 allowed to accept a 100K bet from a lvl 14 crew with 1/3 the # of members? this is not a battle but a slaughter. had to take a chance & find out though, since this crew disbanded about 8 months ago due to this same issue. my hope was to be able to battle a crew within my ranks, so to speak.
before long, there will only be to crews willing to chance baltle...then the battles will become short wars.
kudos, however, to 20/20 for taking advantage of every opportunity available to remain #1 and find ways to continue battling

I rwally liked what TOPGUNNER suggested, seems very fair, and having 4 warring groups would add to teh fun of it all . Nice suggestions TOPGUNNER, Thumbs up.

this war business is nonsense, uninteresting based on pure luck and so forth. I suggest these points below which make wars more competitive and fairer.

1. War shouldn't be crew based at all. instead players should sign up and pay an individual fee to enter (not from crew bank).

2. Players which choose to play are randomly assigned to teams of even numbers (more than just black and blue, what rubbish how about yellow and red as well for instance).

3. Individuals of the winning team then earn xp + chips (and CP, not just entry cost back) to themselves.

4. Then as an entire leaderboard from 1st to last should earn points towards their crew for participating and having 'fun'.

Thanks, DT

thank you Chelsea for removing those posts

I have added this to the to be reviewed list. However in the meantime please stop using this idea which is very much a valid idea to bash crews and players. Anyone doing so will simply be blocked from being able to post and comment on ideas.

I have already deleted all the offending comments and next time will block users access to feedback if needed to prevent the bashing.

Sypress - Nice Suggestion.

Im just suggesting that it not be here, try and ask them out into the open in rpg and discuss it like adults in a pm, but this thread is about non personal issues . And shouldnt be Fodder for the masses ok :)

i wasnt the one that started the bashing tuck, i sat quietly by and had enough

I believe syp asked nicely for the confrontations to be taken elsewhere please respect that, this isnt the thread or the place for it. Take it to Pm please.
TY :)

This issue is a real one and one that needs to be addressed. Unfortunately there are those who could care less about the game, the issues or being civil. The only topic that should be discussed here is the one Sypress presented up top. Bashing, name calling and general nonsense should not even be an issue here. As we are all adults here, I think it's high time to start acting like it. Now please reign in the nonsense and let's get back to the issue at hand. I agree with Sypress, as of now there is no benefit to being the number one crew if we can't pick teams during war. We are a hard working crew that loves battles and wars, but unfortunately as hard as we work we cannot carry more than our own weight.

Please stop using my post to bash each other. Those negative comments will stand in the way of the real issues being addressed.

We are not going to boycott. I am not happy that we will have to pick up the slack for a 100-member crew, impossible Team Challenges, etc... But we will not boycott this war. So, instead, I'm asking for you guys to step up and work together with us this time while we keep bugging the admins to make some changes. 20/20 is still going to be just as active.

Solution to the battle/war would be to categorized the crews . The larger crews battle/war each other the medium crews and smaller crews would do the same . If you choose later to go larger or smaller then you would go to that category .

Our issue isnt that we WANT to pick, Ren. I never liked it, having nothing to do with picking one over the other. Its that we get stuck with on a team with a crew that we can't even drag across the winning line due to their lack of working together. Its an automatic loss. Our team challenges are impossible to reach because of the size of their crew. I am asking for balance and an even playing field in battles. This post wasnt asking if Ren liked choosing.

I agree, a random system should choose the 2 captains.
Then next how to fix the team bonus problem due to a large crew that is mostly a casual gaming crew at best.

AS a member of 20/20 crew I dont care who picks the teams Ren as long as its a fair war. Let the system choose, the math is wrong, My concern is the 100 people I have to work extra hard for because they dont want to play but expect the other crews to do the challenges and stuff for them.

If it was up to me and my crew Oc11 I rather not do the picking of team,its heart breaking to pick one crew over another .Not sure why 20/20 would want to , I rather let the system chose for us .

I wish this issue had been addressed after the last war when I had pointed out the unfair math used to calculate the the scores. I just want it fair, I dont care about winning but I want the Chance to win, the last 3 have been a losing war, and it puts a definate damper on the game, and attitude of play. Hard to cheer and rev up the war team when there's no participation just random comments about we dont need to do this or that, or we will do what we want, drag all the crews down that are working so hard to get things done. Please make it even and fair. Thankyou